tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post2420916677595328543..comments2023-04-29T02:33:40.462-05:00Comments on Pete Hautman says...: The Nasty Thing in the CornerPete Hautmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04904540764318731548noreply@blogger.comBlogger115125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-36427359365201020802017-06-30T06:24:48.716-05:002017-06-30T06:24:48.716-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.model sandal pria terbaruhttp://ztoko.net/sandal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-88653326436648534612017-01-22T19:15:27.812-06:002017-01-22T19:15:27.812-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.toko sendalhttp://ztoko.net/keunggulan-toko-sandal-online/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-85550664781887346652016-12-23T23:46:17.190-06:002016-12-23T23:46:17.190-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.jual sendalhttp://ztoko.net/sandal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-68471497230300619252016-04-27T04:06:26.693-05:002016-04-27T04:06:26.693-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.cara sehat menurunkan berat badanhttp://ztoko.net/7-day-slim/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-71695181905229778542015-09-11T02:10:40.112-05:002015-09-11T02:10:40.112-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.body slim herbalhttp://ztoko.net/body-slim-herbal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-46674560937332378602014-11-15T22:03:48.531-06:002014-11-15T22:03:48.531-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Handcraft Leatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10285303404055928207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-64224506648319099292014-09-03T18:46:37.162-05:002014-09-03T18:46:37.162-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.MRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01122802783384013640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-61859228073380582342010-10-02T14:33:46.695-05:002010-10-02T14:33:46.695-05:00wow...you have a nice discussion..wow...you have a nice discussion..Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12714906682926909343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-82059130093854853192010-08-26T22:58:04.592-05:002010-08-26T22:58:04.592-05:00I'm a little late to the party on this one, bu...I'm a little late to the party on this one, but there's something in Pete's original post that doesn't seem to have elicited the response I would have expected. As Pete mentions, the really scary part of this whole thing is the superintendent's response to the letter protesting the decision.<br /><br />Taking that attitude into account, it seems to me that the benefit of a boycott in this case does not necessarily end with the healthy discussion that it has provoked. It may be impossible to change the minds of those who objected to Ellen's participation, but an additional lasting value might be in influencing the attitudes of those who may be in a position to make similar decisions in the future. And while there may in fact be more authors out there than the TLF knows what to do with, if enough of authors choose not to participate in this festival, perhaps the festival organizers will recognize that--no matter how objectionable a book might be--censorship is not necessarily a prudent business strategy. <br /><br />I know that the disinvitors, for lack of a better term, are in the minority here, and the disinvitation and subsequent cancellations are terrible for the teens who would have had the chance to listen to and speak with the authors in person; there's no denying that. And I want to point out that one of the most heartening aspects of this whole ordeal was the level of examined thought put into the decisions of all the writers involved--both those who chose to attend and those who chose not to. These are discussions that we need to have.Coert Voorheeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107612208865969785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-27632383365478047652010-08-26T13:32:51.810-05:002010-08-26T13:32:51.810-05:00Sure, the teens who discover why their favorite au...Sure, the teens who discover why their favorite authors are not attending the festival will be incensed and want to vent about the evils of censors. If they’re lucky, they may even have a well-informed English instructor who allots a certain amount of class time for discussion on the controversy that now surrounds the festival. But with the results-oriented focus in the public school system, it is unlikely that teachers will be able to justify straying too far from the inexhaustible amount of material that students need to learn to succeed on standardized tests and meet Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP). In short, even students who are fortunate enough to have teachers who promote the exchange of ideas on censorship will not be able to give the topic the time and attention it deserves. Limited discussion might enable the teens who already hold the opinion that censorship is truly “the Nasty Thing in the Corner” to reinforce their beliefs, but the tragedy of the situation is that the indifferent or indoctrinated students will probably not be given enough time to reach any new conclusions.<br /><br />(continued)LeeAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18339586092962778545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-86831647107236164222010-08-26T13:04:07.318-05:002010-08-26T13:04:07.318-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.LeeAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18339586092962778545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-56761063277837648092010-08-25T12:58:16.488-05:002010-08-25T12:58:16.488-05:00I tip my hat to you and the authors who withdrew. ...I tip my hat to you and the authors who withdrew. Censorship is a tough topic. Ages, community, etc. I am a K-7 librarian and I do feel that sometimes I am censoring. But not all books are appropriate for our school library. I will be looking for your books to put in my stack of books to read! Thanks for the great blog!Larnette Snownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-2712727542165990642010-08-24T17:58:25.659-05:002010-08-24T17:58:25.659-05:00Cheers to fighting the good fight!Cheers to fighting the good fight!Jessica Loureyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11157662092822156124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-46930115252520330052010-08-24T17:40:25.399-05:002010-08-24T17:40:25.399-05:00I wonder if people (including the censored writer)...I wonder if people (including the censored writer) should be attending the convention and letting teens know one-on-one that they exist and what happened. I appreciate those of you who have been writing about (and alerting us to) cases of censorship. <br /><br />--Brenda W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-20513484159860129852010-08-24T14:22:07.125-05:002010-08-24T14:22:07.125-05:00Peter, I stand with you, four-square.
We cannot al...Peter, I stand with you, four-square.<br />We cannot allow this, or any kind of censorship go unremarked. Let me suggest to you and all the others here a slender book of considerable relevance. "The Protest Singer," by Alex Wilkinson. It's the story of Pete Seeger's life and our times in the 20th Century.carl brookinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16400731716746662544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-54072904724724376332010-08-23T21:12:55.402-05:002010-08-23T21:12:55.402-05:00Todd Strasser, who also write YA that's been a...Todd Strasser, who also write YA that's been attacked took a very different approach. His idea has some merit. Maybe this isn't the time to be silent and absent.<br /><br />http://www.toddstrasser.com/html/ToddsBlog.htmlPat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824114343214016153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-52000908104392159262010-08-23T18:35:10.812-05:002010-08-23T18:35:10.812-05:00This appalls me, but doesn't surprise me. Peop...This appalls me, but doesn't surprise me. People understand the power of words and there are always a few who want to control what other read in an attempt to control what they think, or out of some mistaken belief they know what's good for everyone.<br /><br />Either way, it's infuriating and needs to be fought.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824114343214016153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-21140380490868382552010-08-23T14:49:16.348-05:002010-08-23T14:49:16.348-05:00Good for you for standing up for a colleague and f...Good for you for standing up for a colleague and for what's right! I really believe that will make a lasting impression on those kids. (And I'm the mom of a middle schooler from TX ... not the area where the event was... but still from TX!)demeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750466778454023591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-59973801648461428762010-08-20T19:16:51.683-05:002010-08-20T19:16:51.683-05:00Pete,
Nice post. Coming from an English teachers ...Pete,<br /><br />Nice post. Coming from an English teachers point of view, I still say you did the right thing. You may have disappointed a few of those kids today, but maybe they can read who/what they want tomorrow. Great stand.<br /><br />JasonJason Kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05671347398990738757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-85778981740345178952010-08-20T14:51:08.636-05:002010-08-20T14:51:08.636-05:00love,love,love that your words in a blog post have...love,love,love that your words in a blog post have resulted in action.<br />maybe even real change.<br />it has to start somewhere.smhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08878312250789570125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-90337535713829297352010-08-19T17:05:19.730-05:002010-08-19T17:05:19.730-05:00Again, the only thing that was "censored"...Again, the only thing that was "censored" was the childrens' opportunity to see this author at this one event. I agree it's a sad, cheesy, closed-minded, red-necked, embarrassingly low-budget thing to do, and those who caved should be ashamed. They should have known who they were inviting in the first place, and stood behind their decision. How do they call themselves educators when a handful of shrill, hysterical book-burners can cow them into limiting the education they provide? But to call it censorship, as if her books had been banned, or to call it equivalent to burning a library, is pushing the envelope a bit. I mean the only reason she was able to go in the first place was because they offered, so it was more a case of "indian-giving" (guess I should say "Native-American-Giving" these days, huh?) than censorship.<br />Have your own fest, with the authors you want. That would fix the entire problem, enbarrass the idiots even further, and restore the children's opportunity to hear this author. Lol, what was she gonna talk about that was so bad, anyway?<br />To the person commenting about bringing issues out in the open and talking about them, and who said "but you only want the Christian god spoken about" (something to that effect), you should already know that no religion wants, or can withstand, open, frank discussions about their policies and dogma. Religion is built and operated specifically to prevent the acquiring of knowledge.Cowchargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03472567910029636203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-1990908404293040902010-08-19T16:32:17.257-05:002010-08-19T16:32:17.257-05:00You Americans sure are a funny bunch. All of you, ...You Americans sure are a funny bunch. All of you, who think it was right to disinvite the author: Do you really think shuffling an issue under the carpet or sticking your head in the sand is going to make it go away? If you take issue with something this author has written - bring it up! Let the kids read the book then DISCUSS those issues. Let the young people THINK FOR THEMSELVES for a change. Stop making decisions for them.<br /><br />And the Anonymous who was sad children don't get to learn about God and the Bible in school: Where I come from, we learn about the Christian God and the Bible, just as we learn about Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism and plenty of other religions and life philosophies. As long as you don't exclude, limit or CENSOR against a particular thing, you are free to talk about the rest. (But you really just want them to learn about the Christian God only, don't you?...)<br /><br />Be a little brave. Dare to talk about those things you find objectionable. Give the kids a chance to make their own decisions - that's what you should be teaching them isn't it? Or do you really just want faithful little indoctrinated, easy-to-control minions?Crazy Cat Ladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-15329981152218460822010-08-19T14:28:16.653-05:002010-08-19T14:28:16.653-05:00I admire you. The authors who refuse to act in un...I admire you. The authors who refuse to act in unity with you because, for various smarmy reasons, they "care" so much about teens really tick me off. That is passive aggression against taking action to stop censorship. They should stop using teens to excuse their cowardice.<br /><br />-Kathy<br />Public LibrarianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-67644214493461362382010-08-19T14:03:31.100-05:002010-08-19T14:03:31.100-05:00I wish people were as passionate about teens not b...I wish people were as passionate about teens not being able to hear about God and the bible being banned in schools as they are about YA books...just saying...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3636753868888685143.post-6054053337311151332010-08-19T12:24:21.186-05:002010-08-19T12:24:21.186-05:00"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful..."Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead.<br /><br />This is so true, both in a good way (like you and the other authors standing up for what's right) and in a bad way (like close-minded people who run the US educational system). Hopefully, more people will follow the the small group that stands up for freedom of expression. <br /><br />I loved your post regarding this. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com